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Showing posts with label Ptolemaic. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ptolemaic. Show all posts
Tuesday, December 31, 2013
Happy New Year!
I hope that everyone is enjoying the New Year. I haven't blogged in months, but I have recently made progress on several projects. I'll be posting several articles soon on Warmachine and Bolt Action figures.
Ryan and I did get in a quick DBA game last week - Thessalians versus Ptolemaic. Unusually, I actually won - 4 to 1. The Thessalians were bunched up, and my Knights finally took a toll on the units. We played about four rounds of Knights pursuing deeper into enemy territory, and fortunately none of them were schwacked.
Ryan killed off my Elephant in the first turn with his Psiloi - rolled a six for his PIPs and did well on the attack. After that, he had a rough time of it.
Saturday, May 4, 2013
DBA Game Day
Our DBA group played a few games last weekend. The following armies battled:
I didn't take too many photos this time, but I did manage a shot of the final fight of our first match. The Kappadokians had no rough to use to their advantage, and the battle turned into a slugging match.
My Ptolemaic force is littoral, but I ended up with the water to my back on two occasions. My bout with the New Kingdom Egyptians featured two amphibious landings, with two Egyptian elements going after my camp. I finally killed them both, beating the Egyptians 5 to 1.
The fight against Seleucids was very intense, with fights on both flanks and a Scythed Chariot that refused to die for many turns. Jeff showed his tactical skill again, winning 5 to 1. You can see more photos of the army on his blog: http://littlehordes.blogspot.kr
Of the numerous Successor states, I must say that I like the way the Ptolemaic list plays. The combination of four Pikes and two Blades, plus an Elephant and some mounted, works pretty well.
Final Tally:
- Seleucid (Jeff)
- New Kingdom Egyptians (Rob)
- Ptolemaic (II/20d) (me)
- Kappadokian and Arab Conquest (Ryan)
Ryan and I played first. He used the Kappadokians for his first two matches, playing Arab Conquest once against Jeff's newly painted Seleucids. Ryan had a pretty good winning streak, but he lost all his games today. He ended up playing the attacker all three times when defense would have suited his force more.
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| Ptolemaic vs. Kappadokian |
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| Elephants force Kappadokian General to Recoil with no room |
My Ptolemaic force is littoral, but I ended up with the water to my back on two occasions. My bout with the New Kingdom Egyptians featured two amphibious landings, with two Egyptian elements going after my camp. I finally killed them both, beating the Egyptians 5 to 1.
The fight against Seleucids was very intense, with fights on both flanks and a Scythed Chariot that refused to die for many turns. Jeff showed his tactical skill again, winning 5 to 1. You can see more photos of the army on his blog: http://littlehordes.blogspot.kr
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| Final Fight - Seleucids vs Ptolemaic |
Final Tally:
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Army
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Wins
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Losses
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New Kingdom Egyptians
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1
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2
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Ptolemaic
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2
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1
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Kappadokian
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0
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2
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Seleucids
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3
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0
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Arab Conquest
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0
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1
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Saturday, January 26, 2013
Amphibious Landing Disaster
Ryan and I got in a quick game of DBA tonight. He played the Seleucids, and I played the Ptolemaic army. It was quick because my amphibious landing turned into a bloodbath.
Starting as defender, the Ptolemaics have a mandatory Waterway. Ryan's deployment roll resulted in the water being to his rear. This should have been a prime opportunity for me. Ryan moved first, advancing a Psiloi across the board to a hill and moving his cavalry out.
I reserved a Psiloi and two Blades for the amphib landing, intent on going after his Elephant which was off to one flank.
Having little experience playing Blades, I didn't know that Ryan's Knights, close by, could quick kill Blades. Although the Psiloi succeeded in quick killing the Elephant and I tried to move my light horse up to support, the game quickly turned against me. Ryan managed to engage my Light Horse with his Cavalry. I won the first bout, as he advanced his Knights toward my Blades, who had nowhere to go.
I couldn't get my Light Horse free, and the Cavalry forced it to recoil on the next turn, right into the Psiloi. The Light Horse was destroyed. I tried to move my Pikes out of the way in order to advance my Knights to assist.
In just a few turns, Ryan killed off my Psiloi with his Cavalry and finished off the Blades. In the final bout, my remaining blade faces his Knight General with overlaps on both sides. It was mathematically just a matter of time, and my Knights couldn't arrive fast enough to help.
In any case, it was great to play a game, and I learned a few more rules the hard way. I also finished painting a battalion of Napoleonic French Infantry. I need to base this batch of Nap figures before moving on to my next project. I will either tackle a long delayed effort to improve my terrain collection or work more on my Napoleonics. I'm still contemplating purchasing the Bolt Action rules soon, too.
Starting as defender, the Ptolemaics have a mandatory Waterway. Ryan's deployment roll resulted in the water being to his rear. This should have been a prime opportunity for me. Ryan moved first, advancing a Psiloi across the board to a hill and moving his cavalry out.
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| Seleucid Psiloi runs to the hills |
I reserved a Psiloi and two Blades for the amphib landing, intent on going after his Elephant which was off to one flank.
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| Ptolemaic Amphibious Landing near Seleucid Elephant |
Having little experience playing Blades, I didn't know that Ryan's Knights, close by, could quick kill Blades. Although the Psiloi succeeded in quick killing the Elephant and I tried to move my light horse up to support, the game quickly turned against me. Ryan managed to engage my Light Horse with his Cavalry. I won the first bout, as he advanced his Knights toward my Blades, who had nowhere to go.
I couldn't get my Light Horse free, and the Cavalry forced it to recoil on the next turn, right into the Psiloi. The Light Horse was destroyed. I tried to move my Pikes out of the way in order to advance my Knights to assist.
In just a few turns, Ryan killed off my Psiloi with his Cavalry and finished off the Blades. In the final bout, my remaining blade faces his Knight General with overlaps on both sides. It was mathematically just a matter of time, and my Knights couldn't arrive fast enough to help.
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| End Game |
Saturday, December 22, 2012
Ptomelaic vs. Thessalians
Ryan is testing out several armies to help him decide on his first army purchase. He wants a cavalry heavy force supported by heavy foot (Spears or Blades). We used elements from other armies to pit the Later Thessalians (II/5d) against the Ptolemaic (II/20c) army. This was also the first time I had played the recently painted Blades in my Morph Collection.
The Thessalians went on the defense, and Ryan placed a minimum amount of terrain.
I used the road to move my Pikes up faster, deploying them into double rows in Turn 2. In Turn 3, my Light Horse faced off against two Cavalry.
I lost the fight, and the Thessalians scored an early kill. After this fight, his cavalry advanced and engaged my General Knight. I recoiled, luckily, and then moved backward out of his ZOC, shifting my other Knight over to support. Instead of pressing the attack, Ryan moved his Cavalry back to support the main line.
One Cavalry element flanked the Pike as the battle lines engaged. The lead Pike was destroyed, but the rest of the fights went in the favor of the Ptolemaic army in general. The Elephant destroyed a spear (QK) as did a Blade element.
I rolled low PIPs, but I was able to close on both Cavalry with my Knights in the next turn, and move most of the main line back into contact, providing several overlaps. The first mounted battle resulted in a Thessalian Cav recoil, but my General destroyed his opponent. The supported Pikes also destroyed a Spear element, ending the game.
Final Losses: Thessalians 4 (Cv, 3-Sp) & Ptolemaic 2 (LH, Pk)
We plan to mock up a T'ang Dynasty army, Mings, and Trojans in the near future for more testing. Meanwhile, I have started work on my DBN elements again. It will be a few months before I finish up enough Austrians and French for a game, but I am looking forward to it.
The Thessalians went on the defense, and Ryan placed a minimum amount of terrain.
| Initial Deployment |
| Lines prepare to Clash |
| Main Battle - first Bout |
Final Losses: Thessalians 4 (Cv, 3-Sp) & Ptolemaic 2 (LH, Pk)
We plan to mock up a T'ang Dynasty army, Mings, and Trojans in the near future for more testing. Meanwhile, I have started work on my DBN elements again. It will be a few months before I finish up enough Austrians and French for a game, but I am looking forward to it.
Monday, December 17, 2012
Morph Matrix
I essentially completed my Macedonian Morph Collection today, applying the last shield decals. Once the weather warms, I will seal the final batch of figures and deem the project 99 percent complete. I need a Warwagon (Tower) to finish this project to 100 percent, but I am not in a rush to do so.
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| Coin of Demetrios I Source: Wikimedia Commons |
My goal was to field two Successor/Hellenistic armies, considering that many of their enemies were other Successor states.
My Inventory
When I first planned out the Morph army, I intended to include Hellenistic Greek armies in the mix. I have since changed my mind given the differences in army composition and uniform design. With any Morph collection, you must make some compromises in terms of the accuracy and uniqueness of the painting and shield designs. However, I decided halfway through the project to limit the scope to the various Successor armies. I also realized that the way in which I planned the original purchases (and painting) was too coarse. I essentially identified the maximum elements for each type and doubled the amount. As a result, I have some overages in a few areas. I also bought additional Pikes in order to model the Hypaspists, knowing the figures would take me over the total needed for two armies.
Element Count - 58
Knights & Cavalry - 7
Light Horse - 2
Elephant - 4
Camelry - 1
Scythed Chariot - 2
Pike - 14
Psiloi - 12
Auxilia - 10
Warband - 2
Blade - 2
Spear - 2
As DBA 3.0 changed, the draft lists have become unreliable, so I have fallen back on the 2.2 lists until 3.0 is published. Hopefully, the army lists will not differ too much.
Opponent Matrix
In order to assess my inventory, I built an opponent matrix to map out the fights between the armies. I found this format to be an easy way to visualize the match-ups. Note the Civil War fights between Seleucid (19b & 19d) and Ptolemaic (20d) armies.
Successor Opponent Matrix
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DBA 2.2
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16a
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16b
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16c
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16d
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17
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18a
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18b
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18c
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18d
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18e
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19a
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19b
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19c
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19d
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20a
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20b
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20c
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20d
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27a
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27b
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16a
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17
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18c
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18d
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18e
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19a
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19b
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19c
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19d
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20a
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20b
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20c
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20d
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27a
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27b
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Matchup Analysis
I also created an spreadsheet listing the element totals for each match-up and compared the results. There are 30 historical match-ups between the armies. With my current elements, I can field all options for 17 of the battles. If the players accept limitations on some options, I can fight 28 of the battles.
Overages
Gaps
War Wagon (Tower)
Spears
Warband
To fight the Ptolemaic civil war match-up (20d vs. 20d), I need four more Warbands. I would borrow elements from my Galatian army in a pinch...
Blades
Three later lists include imitation Legionnaires. I painted up two stands, using Essex "Assorted Hoplites with Pilum" figures. Two match-ups require more than this (Ptolemaic vs. Seleucid and Ptolemaic Civil War).
DBM, FOG, or DBMM?
Given the collection size, I'm tempted to see if I possess enough figures for games requiring larger forces. Of course, I might end up painting more if I check this out, and I have other projects underway. Frankly, I need a break from painting Macedonians at this point.
Photos Coming Soon
I will post photos of the collection in the near future.
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